Legislature(2007 - 2008)CAPITOL 120

04/23/2007 01:00 PM House JUDICIARY


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+ HB 194 FINES AND OFFENSES TELECONFERENCED
<Bill Hearing Rescheduled to 04/27/07>
+= HJR 7 CONST AM: GENDER-NEUTRAL REFERENCES TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHJR 7(STA) Out of Committee
+= HB 213 CRIMES AT DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SHELTERS TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 213(JUD) Out of Committee
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+= HB 164 OCEAN RANGERS & REPORTING VESSEL LOCATION TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 164(JUD) Out of Committee
+= HB 3 REQUIREMENTS FOR DRIVER'S LICENSE/I.D. TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
HB 3 - REQUIREMENTS FOR DRIVER'S LICENSE/I.D.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:09:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR RAMRAS announced that the  first order of business would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL NO. 3, "An  Act relating to issuance of identification                                                               
cards and to issuance of  driver's licenses; and providing for an                                                               
effective date."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:11:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DIRK  MOFFATT, Staff  to Representative  Bob  Lynn, Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature, sponsor,  relayed on  behalf of  Representative Lynn                                                               
that Section  1 of  HB 3  conforms AS  18.65.310(a) to  allow the                                                               
validity period of an identity (ID)  card to be longer or shorter                                                               
than the  standard five-year validity  period.  Section  2 amends                                                               
AS 18.65.310(g) to  require an eight-year validity  period for an                                                               
ID card issued to  a person 60 years of age or  older.  Section 3                                                               
creates new subsections  (h) and (i) in  AS 18.65.310 referencing                                                               
legal  presence  and validity  dates.    Subsection (h)  requires                                                               
proof that an  applicant for an ID  card is a citizen  or a legal                                                               
resident of the United States.   Subsection (i) allows an ID card                                                               
to be issued  to a temporary resident of the  United States under                                                               
certain circumstances;  requires a temporary resident  to present                                                               
documentation  in person;  requires the  ID's expiration  date to                                                               
match  the expiration  date on  the  U.S. government's  temporary                                                               
resident document;  requires an  ID to expire  one year  from the                                                               
date of issue when an  applicant has indefinite temporary status;                                                               
allows IDs to be renewed  with documentary evidence that the U.S.                                                               
government has  extended the applicant's stay;  and provides that                                                               
the department  may regulate what constitutes  valid, documentary                                                               
evidence  for  an ID  card  except  it cannot  approve  matricula                                                               
consular cards.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. MOFFATT, in response to  a question, explained that matricula                                                               
consular  cards are  cards that  have a  lot of  fraud associated                                                               
with  them   even  though  they   are  issued   through  Mexico's                                                               
consulates or embassies.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LYNN,  speaking as  the sponsor  of HB  3, relayed                                                               
that matricula  consular cards, typically  issued by  the Mexican                                                               
government, basically  say that the holder  has that government's                                                               
permission to be in the United States.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. MOFFATT  explained that Section  4 amends  AS 28.15.031(b)(1)                                                               
to prohibit the issuance of a  driver's license to a person whose                                                               
privilege to drive has been  canceled or who is disqualified from                                                               
obtaining  a  license,  and  creates a  new  paragraph  (8)  with                                                               
subparagraphs  (A)   and  (B)  referencing  legal   presence  and                                                               
validity dates.   Subparagraph  (A) prohibits  the issuance  of a                                                               
driver's license  to a  person who has  not presented  proof that                                                               
he/she  is a  citizen or  legal  resident of  the United  States;                                                               
exempts a person  with an Alaska driver's license  from the proof                                                               
requirements  as long  as the  license  has not  expired or  been                                                               
canceled,  suspended, or  revoked  and the  person  has not  been                                                               
disqualified from  obtaining a license, or  unless the department                                                               
is  notified by  a government  agency that  the person  is not  a                                                               
citizen or legal  resident; and provides that  the department may                                                               
regulate  what   constitutes  valid,  documentary   evidence  for                                                               
driver's  license except  it  cannot  approve matricula  consular                                                               
cards.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MOFFATT  relayed that  subparagraph  (B)  allows a  driver's                                                               
license  to be  issued  to  a temporary  resident  of the  United                                                               
States  under certain  circumstances; requires  the applicant  to                                                               
present  documentation  in   person;  prohibits  license  renewal                                                               
without  proof that  temporary status  has been  extended by  the                                                               
U.S. government; prohibits  a name change unless  the name change                                                               
corresponds  to  the  U.S.  government's  authorizing  documents;                                                               
prohibits the issuance of a  duplicate license without proof that                                                               
temporary status is still valid  and in effect; and provides that                                                               
the department  may regulate what constitutes  valid, documentary                                                               
evidence  for  a  driver's  license   except  it  cannot  approve                                                               
matricula consular  cards.  Section 5  conforms [AS 28.15.101(a)]                                                               
to allow the validity period of  a driver's license to be shorter                                                               
than the standard five-year validity period.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. MOFFATT  explained that  Section 6  creates a  new subsection                                                               
(d) in AS  28.15.101 that requires a  driver's license expiration                                                               
date  to  match the  expiration  date  on the  U.S.  government's                                                               
temporary resident  document, and provides that  the license must                                                               
expire one  year from  the date  of issue  when an  applicant has                                                               
indefinite temporary  status.  Section  7 provides for  a January                                                               
1, 2008, effective date.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. MOFFATT, in  response to a question,  confirmed that language                                                               
in  proposed  AS  28.15.031(b)(8)(A) addresses  those  seeking  a                                                               
legal name change due to marriage or divorce.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:19:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DUANE  BANNOCK,  Director,  Division  of  Motor  Vehicles  (DMV),                                                               
Department  of Administration  (DOA), in  response to  questions,                                                               
relayed  that Sections  1-3 specifically  address  ID cards,  and                                                               
that HB  3 is designed to  address those people who  are not able                                                               
establish that  they are legally in  the U.S. or who  have stayed                                                               
longer than they have been approved  for.  "We don't want them to                                                               
have a  driver's license or  identification card," he added.   In                                                               
response to  further questions, he  acknowledged that  although a                                                               
driver's  license  is  meant  to   indicate  that  a  person  has                                                               
sufficient knowledge and  skill to drive a car  and is physically                                                               
able to  do so, it is  more often used for  non-driving purposes;                                                               
offered  his  understanding   that  the  Transportation  Security                                                               
Administration   (TSA)  publishes   information  regarding   what                                                               
documents can be used to  satisfy its requirements; and confirmed                                                               
that driver's  licenses are probably  the most official  photo ID                                                               
that people carry, adding that  they are probably the most common                                                               
document used at airports.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG, after  mentioning  that he's  provided                                                               
members  with a  couple of  proposed amendments,  noted that  the                                                               
federal REAL  ID Act of  2005 requires documents showing  a place                                                               
of residence, and asked how people  in rural Alaska ought to list                                                               
their  addresses given  that in  some areas  there are  no street                                                               
addresses.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BANNOCK  characterized  that  topic  as  being  outside  the                                                               
purview of the bill.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG  noted  that  under  the  bill,  people                                                               
seeking  driver's licenses  or ID  cards must  come into  the DMV                                                               
office  and show  their documentation  in person.   He  asked how                                                               
people  living  in  Alaska's remote  locations  are  expected  to                                                               
comply with that provision.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. BANNOCK,  after noting that  the DMV has an  existing network                                                               
of  offices, explained  that existing  statute  provides for  the                                                               
issuance  of a  specific type  of [license  or ID  card] that  he                                                               
called,  "Valid  Without Photo,"  adding  that  many people  from                                                               
outlying areas of  the state take advantage of that  program.  An                                                               
applicant of such  a license mails his/her documents  to the DMV,                                                               
which processes them  and then mails back a  license that doesn't                                                               
contain a photograph of the person.   House Bill 3 will not alter                                                               
that statute.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.   BANNOCK,   in  response   to   a   question,  offered   his                                                               
understanding that  when people  who live in  rural areas  of the                                                               
state  travel to  the bigger  towns,  one of  their purposes  for                                                               
doing so  is to acquire a  driver's license or ID  card that does                                                               
contain their  photograph.   In response  to other  questions, he                                                               
explained that existing  law requires a person  whose license has                                                               
been expired for  longer than a year to retake  the written exam;                                                               
and that  under HB 3, anyone  seeking to have an  expired license                                                               
renewed  will  have  to  present  other  documentation  verifying                                                               
his/her identity even if the license  has only been expired for a                                                               
brief  time; and  that the  bill provides  an exemption  from its                                                               
documentation  requirements  for  those   seeking  to  get  their                                                               
license  renewed  as  long  as their  existing  license  has  not                                                               
expired.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HOLMES  mentioned that that exemption  language is                                                               
located on page 3, [lines 18-22].                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BANNOCK  added that  under  existing  statute, a  person  is                                                               
allowed to renew  his/her license up to a year  in advance of the                                                               
expiration date.   In  response to  questions, he  explained that                                                               
currently,  someone  with  an  expired  license  seeking  license                                                               
renewal needn't present further documentation.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR RAMRAS expressed  disfavor with the concept  of requiring a                                                               
person  with an  expired driver's  license to  present additional                                                               
documentation,  characterizing  that  requirement  as  an  unfair                                                               
burden on rural  Alaskans.  He indicated that the  bill would not                                                               
be moving from committee until that issue is addressed.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:35:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  pointed out,  too, that under  the REAL                                                               
ID  Act of  2005, if  the person  living in  rural Alaska  has an                                                               
expired license, he/she won't even be  able to board the plane in                                                               
order  to come  into  an  urban center  and  get his/her  license                                                               
renewed.  He concurred, therefore,  that this provision does need                                                               
to be corrected.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HOLMES  asked how  long the  DMV intends  to store                                                               
the required documents, and how it intends to store them.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BANNOCK, noting  that HB  3 does  not address  those issues,                                                               
indicated that  the DMV intends  to store electronic  versions of                                                               
those documents  but hasn't begun  the process  of doing so.   In                                                               
response  to a  question, he  offered his  understanding that  40                                                               
other states already  "practice legal presence."   In response to                                                               
a further  question, he offered  his understanding that  the REAL                                                               
ID  Act of  2005 requires  electronic copies  of documents  to be                                                               
stored seven years and photocopies  of documents to be stored ten                                                               
years.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  RAMRAS asked  Mr.  Bannock  to work  with  the sponsor  to                                                               
address   members'  concerns   regarding  the   bill's  potential                                                               
detrimental impact on rural Alaskans.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LYNN,   acknowledging  that  Alaska   has  unique                                                               
demographics, agreed to address that issue.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  expressed a  desire to inform  the Bush                                                               
caucus  of HB  3's potential  ramifications.   In  response to  a                                                               
comment,  he indicated  that he  would  not yet  be offering  his                                                               
aforementioned proposed amendments.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR RAMRAS relayed that HB 3 would be set aside.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                

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